Bush ranked 36th out of 42 men in "best president" list.

[SpiritWarrior]

"Former President George W. Bush, who left office last month, was ranked 36th out of the 42 men who had been chief executive by the end of 2008, according to a survey conducted by the cable channel C-SPAN.

Bush scored lowest in international relations, where he was ranked 41st, and in economic management, where he was ranked 40th. His highest ranking, 24th, was in the category of pursuing equal justice for all. He was ranked 25th in crisis leadership and vision and agenda setting."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090215/...ing_presidents

Anyone else think even that is a little high? Well I knew it was down the end there somewhere I thought maybe he would be 41st. Still, he ranked the lowest of all presidents as far as foreign relations are concerned, no surprises there. Lincoln holds the number 1 spot, with Clinton jumping to number 15 from 21 in the last 8 years. I guess comparison makes the heart fonder!

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior "Former President George W. Bush, who left office last month, was ranked 36th out of the 42 men who had been chief executive by the end of 2008, according to a survey conducted by the cable channel C-SPAN. Bush scored lowest in international relations, where he was ranked 41st, and in economic management, where he was ranked 40th. His highest ranking, 24th, was in the category of pursuing equal justice for all. He was ranked 25th in crisis leadership and vision and agenda setting." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090215/...ing_presidents Anyone else think even that is a little high? Well I knew it was down the end there somewhere I thought maybe he would be 41st. Still, he ranked the lowest of all presidents as far as foreign relations are concerned, no surprises there. Lincoln holds the number 1 spot, with Clinton jumping to number 15 from 21 in the last 8 years. I guess comparison makes the heart fonder!

24th in "pursuing equal justice" and 25th in "crisis leadership" speaks volumes about his true leadership abilities, which for the most part many, you included, cannot see the fact he made the right decisions when they needed to be made. This poll pretty much solidifies what I knew, and told you earlier, that in due time his true abilities would come to the forefront! And to think, this only 20 odd days since he left office, imagine how high he will climb in four years!

Good post!

[SpiritWarrior]

Thank you. And what a quick response! The reason I included the other two ratings rather than just the overall rating was to demonstrate how, even when something is staring you in the face, you will only see the parts you want to see and ignore the rest. And guess what? You fell for it

He landed in the bottom on the rankings list. He is actually residing in the handful of presidents that were the worst to ever take position, the place were crooks and scandals and impeachments and resignations lie. My goodness what a mess.

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior Thank you. And what a quick response! The reason I included the other two ratings rather than just the overall rating was to demonstrate how, even when something is staring you in the face, you will only see the parts you want to see and ignore the rest. And guess what? You fell for it He landed in the bottom on the rankings list. He is actually residing in the handful of presidents that were the worst to ever take position, the place were crooks and scandals and impeachments and resignations lie. My goodness what a mess.

Fell for it? Hardly. I was quite frankly pissed, you beat me to the post! I had actually just finished reading the article, copied it and was headed here to post it. However, it would have been a bit different than yours, but still would have highlighted the points you fail to see, even thou they are staring you in the face.

Again, you made a good post! 36 for somebody that you hate so much? That's political nirvana is it not? I'm surprised he was not ranked lower, this poll did come from C-SPAN mind you! But hey, 36 for 20 odd days from office? We will take it, and again, lets see where he lands on the next one!

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior He landed in the bottom on the rankings list. He is actually residing in the handful of presidents that were the worst to ever take position, the place were crooks and scandals and impeachments and resignations lie. My goodness what a mess.

Excellent! He has been brought up on how many charges?
Sued how many times?
Impeached over what?

Whereas, a known crook (whitewater), scandalous liar (Paula Jones), and impeached for his actions (Monica Lewenski), landed 15th! WOW!

I guess if you smile, tell a lie and deny, deny, deny, until you can't, then make an apology, you can win world renown public relations?

I guess I need to reconsider running for Constable!

[SpiritWarrior]

Oh me too, I said above I was surprised he wasn't 41. Still, he was 5 away from it. But again, we will agree to disagree. You love your man, and you know what they say, love is blind. Just don't misread. 36 not 6, 16 or 26, lol. Thirty sixth place. If you are happy with that...let's just say it raises more questions than it answers. And most of them aren't my business. I will say, when you have low expectations it is very hard to be dissapointed - maybe this is the case?

It's just the rest of the world seems to have finally woken up (excluding you that is). Hell, even some of his supporters here on IW elected our current president! Either ways, he's out, we're all happy he is out, and things can only get better from the cesspool of crap that happend in the last (almost) decade. Thus, like I told you, his legacy is written. I think his points may change in the future yes, I think they will go down as the economy hums on. I wouldn't be surprised to find him in the 39 region after a few months. But like you, I will take 36 as sealing this guys circus of a run and count my lucky blessings that we didn't allow him to reach 42 on the list by changing the game in the house.

C-span is usually quite accurate and nuetral from what I have seen? (you said you just finished reading it yourself).

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior Oh me too, I said above I was surprised he wasn't 41. Still, he was 5 away from it. But again, we will agree to disagree. You love your man, and you know what they say, love is blind. Just don't misread. 36 not 6, 16 or 26, lol. Thirty sixth place. If you are happy with that...let's just say it raises more questions than it answers. And most of them aren't my business. I will say, when you have low expectations it is very hard to be dissapointed - maybe this is the case? It's just the rest of the world seems to have finally woken up (excluding you that is). Hell, even some of his supporters here on IW elected our current president! Either ways, he's out, we're all happy he is out, and things can only get better from the cesspool of crap that happend in the last (almost) decade. Thus, like I told you, his legacy is written. I think his points may change in the future yes, I think they will go down as the economy hums on. I wouldn't be surprised to find him in the 39 region after a few months. But like you, I will take 36 as sealing this guys circus of a run and count my lucky blessings that we didn't allow him to reach 42 on the list by changing the game in the house. C-span is usually quite accurate and nuetral from what I have seen? (you said you just finished reading it yourself).

Love, hardly, but he was the best man available for the position, and that I will puncture the heart with, (or to the death for clarification). Like me, he doesn't sugar coat anything, nor did he smile at you, just told it straight. With that, and understanding how many of you disliked him, our understanding that he could not bring things about in such a limited time, allowed us to accept the fact that he would be ridiculed, and those that supported him as well, for eternity. However, to land 36th overall, and 24th and 25th in the areas that many had personal dissatisfaction with is truly remarkable. Even for C-SPAN, which you well might know has some ethical dilemmas of it's own right, and a couple titles, one of which earned them a "ethical dunce" award in 2005. But, hey I understand that as well, nobody, or entity is perfect right? So then, why should the raters who put a known crook who was impeached at 15, and a high ranked leader at 36? Well again, money makes the world go around, and C-SPAN is owned by National Cable Satellite Corporation, who by the way, has a Kennedy as a senior officer.

As the economy fails, the US sinks into an even deeper deflation tail spin, the current cabinet will be at the helm, spending trillions and flying around the continent on the taxpayers credit like life is grand, and throwing more money at things can only make it better. Soon, the US government will own everything through bailout money, and everybody who voted for the bama-rama will wonder how the heck did we become a socialist government! Then in a few years, we will re-look the presidents by rank, and see where G.W. Bush lands as a person who did what needed to be done, in an attempt to serve justice to all, and leadership when real situations were present.

Besides, who gives a rats ass about what the world thinks of us anyway? It is the US who has become the world order, police, and saviour of all situations! If we want to enjoy our capitalist lifestyle, then how dare somebody say we can't!

I leave you with: What would happen if we didn't answer the call?

[SpiritWarrior]

Originally Posted by Felix The Assassin Besides, who gives a rats ass about what the world thinks of us anyway? It is the US who has become the world order, police, and saviour of all situations! If we want to enjoy our capitalist lifestyle, then how dare somebody say we can't!

This.

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior This.

http://www.recovery.gov/

[Felix The Assassin]

After perusing this list, I'm now even more impressed G.W scored in the top 36. That in-itself can only correlate to the fact he must have done more good for the nation than the left is willing to accept, and his overall character is not as evil as some would wish it to be, and has an greater effect on enough of these "experts" to prove he was not, is not, and will not be the worst president. And to think, others have been impeached, but were such wonderful "politicians" they ranked much higher. One can only muse and research who these "experts" really are! I think the only anti- missing is SpiritWarrior in the true sense.

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http://www.c-span.org/PresidentialSu...ticipants.aspx