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Old 07-04-2005, 02:10 PM   #41
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Nalia is a pretty crappy thief so I am thinking of ditching her for Jan - will I have Keep problems if I dump her right after I get the Keep?
no 'problems' as such but you will lose some of the plot and interactions - it'll take a lot out of it
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Old 07-04-2005, 06:32 PM   #42
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I took Nalia all the way through the process of freeing the keep and I left her right next to the keep's major domo, so I am hoping when I get keep quests she will pipe up. Maybe I'll add her for those quests as they come up though if she adds alot of dialogue to them.

I did install the mod so we'll see what happens with druid's grove, I'll save before I'd get it as a second stronghold and if the mod doesn't work I will use ZFR's tip - have never used the cheat console before but I don't think it's too cheesy to have 2 strongholds for a Kensai -> Druid (a little but not enough to stop me).
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Old 07-04-2005, 06:43 PM   #43
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I took Nalia all the way through the process of freeing the keep and I left her right next to the keep's major domo, so I am hoping when I get keep quests she will pipe up. Maybe I'll add her for those quests as they come up though if she adds alot of dialogue to them.
Nah, Nalia doesnt really get involved in those quests, just adds some (useless) dialogue sometimes. I think Armen meant the standard Nalia quest. But for those you can dump her and after a game week or so take her and got to Athkatla and the messenger should arrive for her immediately. You can then finish her quest very fast and then dump her again.
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Old 07-04-2005, 06:52 PM   #44
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I took Nalia all the way through the process of freeing the keep and I left her right next to the keep's major domo, so I am hoping when I get keep quests she will pipe up. Maybe I'll add her for those quests as they come up though if she adds alot of dialogue to them.
....have never used the cheat console before but I don't think it's too cheesy to have 2 strongholds for a Kensai -> Druid (a little but not enough to stop me). [/QUOTE]

roflmao.... Havent installed any stronghold mods myself, but after Nalia's keep crawl it makes me wonder how fun some of the others are... aah gettin ahead of myself I'm just on chapter 2 with the rest of SOA and TOB to go... I must be "sick with it" ("really into the game" i.e., "luvin it"... for the the ebonically impaired)

That'll give me much more reason to play the g over again as another class and alignment.
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Old 07-05-2005, 03:11 PM   #45
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Hey all - I have just finished up Nalia's quest and taken over lordship of the Keep. I would really also like to get the Druid's Grove later on as a second stronghold. I don't believe that I had the "multiple strongholds" mod installed before I did the Keep. If I install it now will it allow me to get the Grove later on? If not is there some other method that will work?

There is no need for any mod. Simple CLUA will do.
Before talking to the guy who gives you the stronghold do:


CLUAConsole:SetGlobal("PlayerHasStronghold","GLOBAL",0)


This will make allow you to take multiple strongholds when playing a multiclass
[/QUOTE]I think this answers the question I was about to ask, but just to be sure...

My situation is that I'm playing a Berserker/Druid dualclass, and only want the Druid stronghold. I will probably be doing the Druid stronghold quest while still a Berserker, but want to come back later to get the stronghold. So if I read the above comment correctly, it looks like there is no check for stronghold legality until the final dialogue with the person who actually offers you the stronghold, which is after you complete the quest. So I should be able to complete the quest (letting Cernd fight Faldorn) except for talking to that character, and come back and have that conversation when I'm ready (level 14 Druid). Correct, or am I missing something?

If it matters, I'm playing SOA with TOB installed, patched and Baldurdashed but no mods, intending on taking the party through TOB.
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Old 07-05-2005, 04:57 PM   #46
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I switched over at 9th level, am not planning on playing TOB though or I might have waited until 13th to switch over. Would there be any problem with gaining the Druid stronghold if I take on Faldorn myself and let Cernd sit on the sidelines? Ie, am I going to be force-dialogued into the stronghold conversation after I whup some tail in that steel cage match with Faldorn too soon? Should I put that off until I am 14th level as a Druid?
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Old 07-06-2005, 02:03 AM   #47
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I've only been a Druid once (Kensai->Druid, ironically enough), and you can actually gain the Druid stronghold well before you reach Level 14--they just won't respect you as much as they would a true Grand Druid.

Or I could be wrong. It's been a while.
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Old 07-06-2005, 02:33 AM   #48
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Six is correct, I believe. You can be master of the grove without being the Great Druid. You can settle for being a Pretty Good Druid.
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Old 07-06-2005, 12:03 PM   #49
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Thanks! I do have TOB and plan on switching to Druid at level 13 Berserker. Ironically, with the Berserker13/Druid dual-class you reach level 14 Druid, simultaneously regaining your Berserker class and achieving Great Druid status, exactly at the peak XP level for SOA: 2.95M XP.
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Old 07-06-2005, 03:17 PM   #50
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Originally posted by Gimli:
Hey all - I have just finished up Nalia's quest and taken over lordship of the Keep. I would really also like to get the Druid's Grove later on as a second stronghold. I don't believe that I had the "multiple strongholds" mod installed before I did the Keep. If I install it now will it allow me to get the Grove later on? If not is there some other method that will work?

There is no need for any mod. Simple CLUA will do.
Before talking to the guy who gives you the stronghold do:


CLUAConsole:SetGlobal("PlayerHasStronghold","GLOBAL",0)


This will make allow you to take multiple strongholds when playing a multiclass
[/QUOTE]The easiest way to do it is to finish the quests for the fighter stronghold get the offer to take the keep and tell them "let me sleep on it" (or the equivalent) then do the grove quests, accept the grove and go back to the keep and pick up the second stronghold, although it sounds like you're too far for this to work.
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