Should Van Tuong be hanged?

[Davros]

Originally posted by johnny: Hanging someone over a few grams of dope is barbaric and not of this day and age. Countries with laws like that should be excluded from the international community until they can be reasoned with.

Johnny - they define personal use as less than 15 grams and that doesn't get you the death sentence. It wasn't dope either - he had nearly half a kilo of heroin strapped to him and in his luggage. To my mind that doesn't constitute a few grams of personal use - it constitutes trafficking in hard drugs.

[Sir Degrader]

A half kilo, that's over 40,000 dollars on the street, and thats adulterated...

[johnny]

Originally posted by Davros: quote: Originally posted by johnny: Hanging someone over a few grams of dope is barbaric and not of this day and age. Countries with laws like that should be excluded from the international community until they can be reasoned with.

Johnny - they define personal use as less than 15 grams and that doesn't get you the death sentence. It wasn't dope either - he had nearly half a kilo of heroin strapped to him and in his luggage. To my mind that doesn't constitute a few grams of personal use - it constitutes trafficking in hard drugs. [/QUOTE]It's still barbaric to hang someone over that. A few grams, half a kilo, i don't care. Sure, he deserves time in prison, but he doesn't deserve death.

[Sir Degrader]

Why not? That heroin is probably going to get some kid addicted, ruin his life and may result in him getting HIV/AIDS, not to mention a bevy of other problems.

[Kakero]

Good for Singapore, show these criminals that crime doesn't pay. In my opinion though, death by hanging is too lenient.

[Szass-Tam]

Hang on a second.

Firstly, execution is, in simplest terms, state-sanctioned killing, and it devalues the respect we place on human life; how can we say that killing is wrong if we sanction killing criminals?

Secondly, by executing criminals you are ruling out the possibility of rehabilitation - that they may repent of their crime, serve a sentence as punishment, and emerge as a reformed and useful member of society.

[johnny]

Originally posted by Sir Degrader: Why not? That heroin is probably going to get some kid addicted, ruin his life and may result in him getting HIV/AIDS, not to mention a bevy of other problems.

People that use heroin, would probably selfdestruct in another way if there's no dope around. There's so many good information on the downsides of heroin, but there's still people stupid enough to give it a try. When you were born with shit instead of brains in your skull, you're going to end up in the gutter anyhow. You can't blame the trafficer for their stupidity. Like i said, put him in jail for a few years, i'm sure he'll learn his lesson inthere. Hanging someone over smuggling drugs is inhumane. Apparently Kakero doesn't even think hanging is suitable enough, maybe he'd like to torture him a bit first. Tell me, at what time did the clock stop ticking in your neck of the woods ? 1120 or something ?

[Szass-Tam]

It's not just stupidity that causes people to take heroin. Peer pressure and curiosity are also factors.

[johnny]

Originally posted by Szass-Tam: It's not just stupidity that causes people to take heroin. Peer pressure and curiosity are also factors.

Well, i'm also curious what you feel, but if you know to what it will lead in the long run, i have no problems oppressing my curiosity. After all, it kills the cat, no ?

[Szass-Tam]

Well, I don't think the majority of first time heroin users think about the consequences of their actions.