We've been robbed - help!

Big Red · 10-01-2001, 06:58 PM

Just before fighting the Chromatic Demon in Watcher's Keep, we had nearly 200,000 gold.

Then we're wandering around the next level on a killing spree, picking up more gold and spoils of war.

I just happen to glance at my gold total and it's down to just over 40,000.

Me and Korgan are *!£$%&* mad.

When we find any suspicious looking guys with 150,000 gold in their pockets (or anyone else for that matter) they'd better have a damned good excuse.

Korgan's a bloody walking death trap now that he's angry.

We want our gold back. We've killed for it and it's ours.

If it's a bug we can use ShadowKeeper to get it back, but if not, Edwin's getting ready to rest before unleashing the worst spell offensive I've yet to come across.

Can someone point us in the direction of someone to take it out on, or should we just summon a few monsters and kick the sh*t out of them?

We want justice and we want it soon.

SSJ4Sephiroth · 10-01-2001, 07:30 PM

umm... did you happen to upgrade any weapons? cause that makes you lose money rather quickly...

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What are you saying? Are you trying to tell me you have feelings now? Ha, ha, ha... Stop acting as if you're sad. And there's no need to act as if you're angry either. Because, Cloud, you are... a puppet.

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Follower of the mighty Fallen Paladin himself.
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Sharpedge · 10-01-2001, 07:36 PM

It could be that you've fallen victim to wild magic. If you've recently had an encounter with creatures in which loads of magical effects and wild surges were going off you could have lost the gold that way. One of the bad results on the wild surge table results in nearby gold being destroyed. I was taken down to about 4,000 gold after a particularly protracted fight with some quasits in a wild magic zone.

The best thing you can do is reload and try to avoid the area.

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"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.

Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure."

[This message has been edited by Sharpedge (edited 10-01-2001).]

Hayashi · 10-01-2001, 09:08 PM

I lost a whole #$@*load of gold in Watcher's Keep - the level with Yakman and the annoying maze. I strongly suspect that it disappeared in one of the wild magic rooms. I had something like 150,000 gold and it was down to something like less than 10,000 iirc.
Definitely a bug of course, as after I encountered the bug for the first time I made sure none of my party cast any magic in those rooms. Still the gold got deducted.
But now I am glad to say that I have amassed something like more than 500K gold although I've had Cespenar make almost every item he (it?) could. I am nearly at the end though, going after the final intermediate 'bad guy'. SO I've plenty of gold, but not much to spend it on. Ah well - I'll look at it as my "retirement fund"

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Seraph · 10-01-2001, 10:05 PM

From wild surge table:
17 Gold on caster is destroyed
95 Destroyes all gold on target

Several of those are probably what did it.

Big Red · 10-02-2001, 04:08 AM

There was no upgrading or wild magic on our part. We're basically fighters and proud of it - we only use magic to fight magic, unless of course something has made us really mad.

We've cleared out the entire level now apart from Yakman himself, who's now the only one left on out short list of culprits.

If he doesn't give it back he's going to regret it.

I can kill him a zillion different ways, but a long slow painful death for him would be so much better.

And then if he doesn't show up with my loot, we can reload and kill him before he does anything. Then if it still goes missing at least we've narrowed down out list of suspects. Them quasits might be worth annihilating pretty damn quick though - thanks for that tip. Someone's gonna pay.

Bahamut · 10-02-2001, 04:50 AM

Never thought wild magic can kill more than itself or other opponents... no fair!!!

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Chaotic Cavalier of ALSB, protector of the Innocent, slayer of the mad...

Ronn_Bman · 10-02-2001, 11:23 AM

Same thing happened to me. I lost $200,000 and knew I hadn't upgraded enough items to loss that much cash. I don't have any wild mages in my party either, but I guess those I ran into zapped me!

Don't worry though. 1 chapter later and I'm up to 300,000 bucks. Gold flows like wine in this game in later chapters.

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An elevator smells different to a dwarf.

Big Red · 10-03-2001, 04:09 AM

Thanks guys.

We reloaded and replayed the level.
Nobody nicked our gold this time so I'm not sure when/where it vanished, but the room with the Quasits was the most likely candidate.

There was a brief message about wild magic which I largely ignored as I've never come across wild magic before. It should have come with a severe wealth warning as well. We're happy now. It's not just the gold (but gold *is* gold after all), we also wanted to know why so we can be prepared for future occurrences.

10-18-2001, 02:24 PM

Didn't lose any gold but did have armour and several choice magical items stripped from the inventories of several party members. At first I thought I had run afoul of those bloody Nishruu's (or their like) but then I remembered attempting to cast several spells (Minor Restoration, Cure Critical Wounds, etc.) in the room previously occupied by the Quasits (now deceased). Unfortunately, I didn't notice the loss until my folks suddenly (and mysteriously) starting taking lots of battle damage. By then I was several saves along and had to go back many, many game turns to set things right.

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10-01-2001, 06:58 PM	#1
Big Red Dungeon Master Join Date: March 20, 2001 Location: Peterborough, UK Posts: 63	Just before fighting the Chromatic Demon in Watcher's Keep, we had nearly 200,000 gold. Then we're wandering around the next level on a killing spree, picking up more gold and spoils of war. I just happen to glance at my gold total and it's down to just over 40,000. Me and Korgan are !£$%& mad. When we find any suspicious looking guys with 150,000 gold in their pockets (or anyone else for that matter) they'd better have a damned good excuse. Korgan's a bloody walking death trap now that he's angry. We want our gold back. We've killed for it and it's ours. If it's a bug we can use ShadowKeeper to get it back, but if not, Edwin's getting ready to rest before unleashing the worst spell offensive I've yet to come across. Can someone point us in the direction of someone to take it out on, or should we just summon a few monsters and kick the sh*t out of them? We want justice and we want it soon.

10-01-2001, 07:30 PM	#2
SSJ4Sephiroth Beholder Join Date: May 4, 2001 Location: The Outside Looking In Age: 38 Posts: 4,361	umm... did you happen to upgrade any weapons? cause that makes you lose money rather quickly... ------------------ It's simple. Once the Planet is hurt, it gathers Spirit Energy to heal the injury. The amount of energy gathered depends on the size of the injury...What would happen if there was an injury that threatened the very life of the Planet? Think how much energy would be gathered! Ha, ha, ha. And at the center of that injury, wil be me. All that boundless energy will be mine. By merging with the energy of the Planet, I will be come a new life form, a new existence. Melding with the Planet, I will cease to exist as I am now. Only to be reborn as a 'God' to rule over every living soul. What are you saying? Are you trying to tell me you have feelings now? Ha, ha, ha... Stop acting as if you're sad. And there's no need to act as if you're angry either. Because, Cloud, you are... a puppet. Super Sephiroth, slayer of the Uber Fluffy, and battle co-ordionator and defender of the HADB clan. Follower of the mighty Fallen Paladin himself. Diplomacy is all and well, but HADB is better! Head of the IronWorks Intelligence Division Official Soup Server of Cloudy's Cafe Stalking the woodlands, the Lioness in my sight, warm feelings doth come, into my lonely heart

10-01-2001, 07:36 PM	#3
Sharpedge Zhentarim Guard Join Date: June 23, 2001 Location: Aberystwyth, Wales Posts: 396	It could be that you've fallen victim to wild magic. If you've recently had an encounter with creatures in which loads of magical effects and wild surges were going off you could have lost the gold that way. One of the bad results on the wild surge table results in nearby gold being destroyed. I was taken down to about 4,000 gold after a particularly protracted fight with some quasits in a wild magic zone. The best thing you can do is reload and try to avoid the area. ------------------ "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure." [This message has been edited by Sharpedge (edited 10-01-2001).]

10-01-2001, 09:08 PM	#4
Hayashi Silver Dragon Join Date: March 25, 2001 Location: The Lion City Age: 64 Posts: 1,699	I lost a whole #$@*load of gold in Watcher's Keep - the level with Yakman and the annoying maze. I strongly suspect that it disappeared in one of the wild magic rooms. I had something like 150,000 gold and it was down to something like less than 10,000 iirc. Definitely a bug of course, as after I encountered the bug for the first time I made sure none of my party cast any magic in those rooms. Still the gold got deducted. But now I am glad to say that I have amassed something like more than 500K gold although I've had Cespenar make almost every item he (it?) could. I am nearly at the end though, going after the final intermediate 'bad guy'. SO I've plenty of gold, but not much to spend it on. Ah well - I'll look at it as my "retirement fund" .

10-01-2001, 10:05 PM	#5
Seraph Quintesson Join Date: September 12, 2001 Location: Ewing, NJ Age: 43 Posts: 1,079	From wild surge table: 17 Gold on caster is destroyed 95 Destroyes all gold on target Several of those are probably what did it.

10-02-2001, 04:08 AM	#6
Big Red Dungeon Master Join Date: March 20, 2001 Location: Peterborough, UK Posts: 63	There was no upgrading or wild magic on our part. We're basically fighters and proud of it - we only use magic to fight magic, unless of course something has made us really mad. We've cleared out the entire level now apart from Yakman himself, who's now the only one left on out short list of culprits. If he doesn't give it back he's going to regret it. I can kill him a zillion different ways, but a long slow painful death for him would be so much better. And then if he doesn't show up with my loot, we can reload and kill him before he does anything. Then if it still goes missing at least we've narrowed down out list of suspects. Them quasits might be worth annihilating pretty damn quick though - thanks for that tip. Someone's gonna pay.

10-02-2001, 04:50 AM	#7
Bahamut Iron Throne Cult Join Date: March 12, 2001 Location: Manila, Philippines Age: 40 Posts: 4,864	Never thought wild magic can kill more than itself or other opponents... no fair!!! ------------------ Chaotic Cavalier of ALSB, protector of the Innocent, slayer of the mad...

10-02-2001, 11:23 AM	#8
Ronn_Bman Zartan Join Date: March 11, 2001 Location: North Carolina USA Age: 58 Posts: 5,177	Same thing happened to me. I lost $200,000 and knew I hadn't upgraded enough items to loss that much cash. I don't have any wild mages in my party either, but I guess those I ran into zapped me! Don't worry though. 1 chapter later and I'm up to 300,000 bucks. Gold flows like wine in this game in later chapters. ------------------ An elevator smells different to a dwarf.

10-03-2001, 04:09 AM	#9
Big Red Dungeon Master Join Date: March 20, 2001 Location: Peterborough, UK Posts: 63	Thanks guys. We reloaded and replayed the level. Nobody nicked our gold this time so I'm not sure when/where it vanished, but the room with the Quasits was the most likely candidate. There was a brief message about wild magic which I largely ignored as I've never come across wild magic before. It should have come with a severe wealth warning as well. We're happy now. It's not just the gold (but gold is gold after all), we also wanted to know why so we can be prepared for future occurrences.

10-18-2001, 02:24 PM	#10
akbar Guest Posts: n/a	Didn't lose any gold but did have armour and several choice magical items stripped from the inventories of several party members. At first I thought I had run afoul of those bloody Nishruu's (or their like) but then I remembered attempting to cast several spells (Minor Restoration, Cure Critical Wounds, etc.) in the room previously occupied by the Quasits (now deceased). Unfortunately, I didn't notice the loss until my folks suddenly (and mysteriously) starting taking lots of battle damage. By then I was several saves along and had to go back many, many game turns to set things right.

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