Monk & Cleric?

Sparhawk · 10-24-2003, 08:46 AM

I have a delightfull young monk ( currently lvl.5 ) whom I am thinking of dualling to become a cleric....I am however a little uncertain on how the dual-system works in NWN.

If I choose to dual him to Cleric, will I then be able to raise him further in Monk or is that a dead end....?

I´d like my monk to be more priest-like...thats why I am dualling him and I always needs those good pre-battle spells with a monk.

I am using Tomi as my henchman as always since I really need to plunder my way through NWN *LOL*

J.

Micah Foehammer · 10-24-2003, 08:57 AM

Forget the old dual and multi-class system for NWN - that was 2nd edition rules, NWN is 3rd edition. [img]smile.gif[/img] The way is works is this: whenever you gain enough experience to go up a level, you can either add another level of skill to an existing class OR take a level in a new class. The xp required to gain a new level is now TOTALLY class independent is determined by the total levels of all classes. For example, a ftr 5/ mage 4 and a rogue 8 / mage 2 require exactly the same xp to add another level. The manner in which you add levels in more than one class is totally up to you. You can build a monk 9 and then start adding cleric levels OR you can build a monk 5 / cleric 4 by alternating levels in each. Up to you. [img]smile.gif[/img]

The only exception is IF neither of the classes is a PREFERRED class for that character's race and the levels in each class are more than 2 (?) levels apart. For example, dwarves have fighter as a prefered class, so if you are building a multi-class dwarven fighter / anything else you don't need to pay attention to the diference in levels. If on the other hand you want to build a dwarven cleric / rogue then you DO need to keep an eye on the difference in the number of levels in each class or you suffer an XP penalty.

Sparhawk · 10-24-2003, 09:03 AM

THANX

A little obscure explanation....I understand that I can just change class at will.

Let´s say I choose to "dual" my 5 lvl. Monk now...to a cleric....then gain 5 lvl. as a cleric and the switch back to Monk...would that be possible ??

Micah Foehammer · 10-24-2003, 09:36 AM

Yes, that is possible.

Sorry the explanation wasn't clearer. Blame it on lack of coffee .... lol [img]smile.gif[/img]

Sparhawk · 10-24-2003, 09:43 AM

Quite okay old boy *LoL*

It´s just that the explanation is VERY technical...but after reading it four times I get the picture *DOH!*

J.

Micah Foehammer · 10-24-2003, 09:48 AM

LOL I got my caffeine fix, so I am better now. [img]smile.gif[/img]

BTW, what race is your monk? If I know that I can tell you whether you will suffer a penalty to XP. [img]smile.gif[/img]

shadowolf03 · 10-24-2003, 09:58 AM

It sounds like Monks are quite popular...i'd didn't expect that since they don't have many things you can do with them...

Micah Foehammer · 10-24-2003, 10:03 AM

At low levels, Monks can be difficult to play - low hit points, inability to wear armor without losing some abilities, etc. At higher levels however, Monks are stone-cold killing machines. They can do incredible damage with the fists, gain some heavy duty abilities and have the potential for the best legal AC of any character class. [img]smile.gif[/img] Besides, how can you resist the animation for your Kung-Fu fighting character? [img]smile.gif[/img]

Gabrielles blades · 10-24-2003, 10:04 AM

i could have sworn that monks werent able to switch profession and then switch back.
i never tried it myself, i do recall reading it someplace.

Decurion · 10-24-2003, 10:43 AM

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Gabrielles blades is right. Monks are "so devoted" to their...uhhhh....profession (?), that if they turn away from the monk path (violating their oaths) they are not allowed to return. I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere.

Decurion

10-24-2003, 08:46 AM	#1
Sparhawk Quintesson Join Date: June 2, 2001 Location: In the oldest monarchy - Denmark Age: 46 Posts: 1,071	I have a delightfull young monk ( currently lvl.5 ) whom I am thinking of dualling to become a cleric....I am however a little uncertain on how the dual-system works in NWN. If I choose to dual him to Cleric, will I then be able to raise him further in Monk or is that a dead end....? I´d like my monk to be more priest-like...thats why I am dualling him and I always needs those good pre-battle spells with a monk. I am using Tomi as my henchman as always since I really need to plunder my way through NWN LOL J. __________________ "Between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Arius. There was an age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world. Hither came Conan, the cimmarian, sword in hand. It is I, his chronicler who knows well his saga. Now let me tell you of the days of high adventure!" "Unleash the Casey!" "Make no mistake, should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be looking at an outcome that will have a finality, that is beyound your comprehension. And you will not counting the days or the months or the years, but milleniums in a place with no doors!"

10-24-2003, 08:57 AM	#2
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	Forget the old dual and multi-class system for NWN - that was 2nd edition rules, NWN is 3rd edition. [img]smile.gif[/img] The way is works is this: whenever you gain enough experience to go up a level, you can either add another level of skill to an existing class OR take a level in a new class. The xp required to gain a new level is now TOTALLY class independent is determined by the total levels of all classes. For example, a ftr 5/ mage 4 and a rogue 8 / mage 2 require exactly the same xp to add another level. The manner in which you add levels in more than one class is totally up to you. You can build a monk 9 and then start adding cleric levels OR you can build a monk 5 / cleric 4 by alternating levels in each. Up to you. [img]smile.gif[/img] The only exception is IF neither of the classes is a PREFERRED class for that character's race and the levels in each class are more than 2 (?) levels apart. For example, dwarves have fighter as a prefered class, so if you are building a multi-class dwarven fighter / anything else you don't need to pay attention to the diference in levels. If on the other hand you want to build a dwarven cleric / rogue then you DO need to keep an eye on the difference in the number of levels in each class or you suffer an XP penalty. __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

10-24-2003, 09:03 AM	#3
Sparhawk Quintesson Join Date: June 2, 2001 Location: In the oldest monarchy - Denmark Age: 46 Posts: 1,071	THANX A little obscure explanation....I understand that I can just change class at will. Let´s say I choose to "dual" my 5 lvl. Monk now...to a cleric....then gain 5 lvl. as a cleric and the switch back to Monk...would that be possible ?? __________________ "Between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Arius. There was an age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world. Hither came Conan, the cimmarian, sword in hand. It is I, his chronicler who knows well his saga. Now let me tell you of the days of high adventure!" "Unleash the Casey!" "Make no mistake, should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be looking at an outcome that will have a finality, that is beyound your comprehension. And you will not counting the days or the months or the years, but milleniums in a place with no doors!"

10-24-2003, 09:36 AM	#4
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	Yes, that is possible. Sorry the explanation wasn't clearer. Blame it on lack of coffee .... lol [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

10-24-2003, 09:43 AM	#5
Sparhawk Quintesson Join Date: June 2, 2001 Location: In the oldest monarchy - Denmark Age: 46 Posts: 1,071	Quite okay old boy LoL It´s just that the explanation is VERY technical...but after reading it four times I get the picture DOH! J. __________________ "Between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Arius. There was an age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world. Hither came Conan, the cimmarian, sword in hand. It is I, his chronicler who knows well his saga. Now let me tell you of the days of high adventure!" "Unleash the Casey!" "Make no mistake, should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be looking at an outcome that will have a finality, that is beyound your comprehension. And you will not counting the days or the months or the years, but milleniums in a place with no doors!"

10-24-2003, 09:48 AM	#6
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	LOL I got my caffeine fix, so I am better now. [img]smile.gif[/img] BTW, what race is your monk? If I know that I can tell you whether you will suffer a penalty to XP. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

10-24-2003, 09:58 AM	#7
shadowolf03 Drow Warrior Join Date: December 22, 2002 Location: UK Age: 39 Posts: 258	It sounds like Monks are quite popular...i'd didn't expect that since they don't have many things you can do with them... __________________ Knowing how to be an adult is knowing when to be a child.

10-24-2003, 10:03 AM	#8
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	At low levels, Monks can be difficult to play - low hit points, inability to wear armor without losing some abilities, etc. At higher levels however, Monks are stone-cold killing machines. They can do incredible damage with the fists, gain some heavy duty abilities and have the potential for the best legal AC of any character class. [img]smile.gif[/img] Besides, how can you resist the animation for your Kung-Fu fighting character? [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

10-24-2003, 10:04 AM	#9
Gabrielles blades Baaz Draconian Join Date: April 26, 2002 Location: florida Age: 42 Posts: 761	i could have sworn that monks werent able to switch profession and then switch back. i never tried it myself, i do recall reading it someplace.

10-24-2003, 10:43 AM	#10
Decurion The Magister Join Date: November 13, 2002 Location: Canada Age: 35 Posts: 136	Yeah, I'm pretty sure Gabrielles blades is right. Monks are "so devoted" to their...uhhhh....profession (?), that if they turn away from the monk path (violating their oaths) they are not allowed to return. I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere. Decurion

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