New Editor Available

Talryan · 12-05-2001, 05:19 AM

Ok, I've got most of it done now so I'm putting it on my site for download. I'm adding in the ability to add/change inventory items, but it's taking a while since there are a lot of items to type in for the lists. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

So far it works on .sav and .chr files (.chr files are the level 1 characters that are listed when you go to start a new game, changing these means you can start out at higher levels w/ better stats and such).

Download, enjoy, let me know what you think please.

http://perfectweb.org/wizardry.zip

Talryan

spoon · 12-05-2001, 07:10 AM

Editors ruin the fun of the game. Finish it yourself or not at all [img]smile.gif[/img]

And besides they are EVIL... EEIIIVIL!

Read the notice on the site?

quote:
IF YOU HACK, YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Let us just say that there are ways of detecting a hacked save and we are forced to say that, should we get one of these, we will not repair it for you under any circumstance.

edit: fixed http:// x2 in the link

spoon

Talryan · 12-05-2001, 08:08 AM

No need to preach to the choir friend. I didn't write this for myself to use, I rarely find games I enjoy, so I try to enjoy the game as much as possible before "cheating". I just like programming and this was a good little exercise for me since I've never used VC++ before. And since I know a lot of people out there were wanting it, I created one that runs quickly and efficiently.

I've updated it to include adjusting exp now as well, the link to the file is the same though.

If you have any troubles with it, shoot me an e-mail, I included it in the zip file.

Tal

Drakton · 12-05-2001, 09:01 AM

What is cheating? Some say that saving and reloading is a form of cheat. For the purist this may be, but I have yet to see someone who finish a game without some form of saving and reloading. Now, if you use an editor to make your demi-god characters at the beginning of the game, that I consider the most rampant and direct form of cheating.
I've always said "Better cheat than quit", but if and when I cheat is because I honestly tried my utmost to finish the game in the normal way and I decide is beyond my limited patience to try to win that battle or solve that puzzle for the 101th time, or maybe is just a game I don't really care about and want to finish asap.
Of course, in the end, it's YOUR game and you can play it absolutely any way you want, and no one has the righ to criticize (sp?) you for it

Ð.

spoon · 12-05-2001, 11:58 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Drakton:

Of course, in the end, it's YOUR game and you can play it absolutely any way you want, and no one has the righ to criticize (sp?) you for it
Ð.

I thought I -did- have the right, free speach and all that. [img]graemlins/evillaughter2.gif[/img]

Oh well I always suspected other countries of supressing my rights. [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/uhoh2.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img]

ps i have to use this smiley [img]graemlins/jamesbond.gif[/img]

woo

Jerry Austin · 12-05-2001, 03:14 PM

High,
Im interested in your editor but didnt see your email address anywhere can you hook me up with it...id like to keep up on the newest version.
qwert

Talryan · 12-05-2001, 07:20 PM

email: netspyder101@yahoo.com

Look forward to hearing from you.

Jonathan

gd2 · 12-05-2001, 11:53 PM

Hi all,
no particular reason for using that bug eyed emoticon btw, 'xept that it cracks me up. Anyway, cheating... [img]graemlins/2cents.gif[/img]

Even though Wiz8's an awesome game, the release of which I've waited a long time for, and though I wont be using any trainers or editors, still IMHO one shouldn't be chastized, looked down upon, etc, for cheating. If this were a MMUD maybe that'd make it different, but its single player.

Some people find they get the most fun or just the most out of a game by using editors or otherwise cheating, others dont have or aren't willing to spend the time needed to play without cheating. Lets at least acknowledge this much: whatever else games we like so much are, they're true wasters of precious time. So in a way, its not editors that are evil at all. Infact, in this light, an editor or anything that helps pry someone who's wasting the day away from the computer quicker is actually a kind of savior

. Hmm... [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img] Of course that only applies to all but yours truly [img]graemlins/funnysad.gif[/img] ...

Knip Dyolf · 12-06-2001, 02:24 AM

I agree gd2.
Its all a matter of choice. If someone needs an editor or cheat to make the game more enjoyable for them then good luck I say. These are games.....the word alone suggests FUN.

The people out there that take the time and effort to make editors, find cheats, write up walkthroughs and so on are godsends for those of us that need help.

When I first bought Zelda for the Nintendo system the only way I was able to progress through some parts of the game was to ring a help line and get charged some $1.00 a minute for some dude to hold my hand and sloooowlyyyy take me through to the next section. My phone bill was bigger than my mortage payments.

I am, at this stage, determined to play wiz 8 without any editor or cheat. I will be relying on this forum for any help. I have ruined, in my opinion, too many games using a cheat.
However, I thank say thank you to those people that take the time and effort to make editors, walkthroughs, etc. Your efforts are appreciated by many a gamer. [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img]

Talryan · 12-06-2001, 03:36 AM

http://perfectweb.org/wizardry.zip

Ok, new version of the editor has been released, and the updates are as follows:

Ability to add/change any item in any of the 8 inventory slots

Ability to add/update the quantity or charges of any item in an inventory slot

Ability to change a characters race

Ability to change a characters sex

Current Exp now saves properly into the file

Program will now find any and all characters within the .sav file

If you have any questions, comments, complaints, PLEASE e-mail me and let me know. I'm going into Computer Science as a career, so I have to get used to listening to the input from the users of a program!

I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut...oh wait, that's not it.

I just enjoy coding and playing around with various things, hence making the savegame editor.

Tal

12-05-2001, 07:10 AM	#2
spoon Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: November 27, 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 26	Editors ruin the fun of the game. Finish it yourself or not at all [img]smile.gif[/img] And besides they are EVIL... EEIIIVIL! Read the notice on the site? quote: IF YOU HACK, YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK. Let us just say that there are ways of detecting a hacked save and we are forced to say that, should we get one of these, we will not repair it for you under any circumstance. edit: fixed http:// x2 in the link spoon

12-05-2001, 09:01 AM	#4
Drakton Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: October 2, 2001 Location: Monterrey, NL, Mexico Posts: 24	What is cheating? Some say that saving and reloading is a form of cheat. For the purist this may be, but I have yet to see someone who finish a game without some form of saving and reloading. Now, if you use an editor to make your demi-god characters at the beginning of the game, that I consider the most rampant and direct form of cheating. I've always said "Better cheat than quit", but if and when I cheat is because I honestly tried my utmost to finish the game in the normal way and I decide is beyond my limited patience to try to win that battle or solve that puzzle for the 101th time, or maybe is just a game I don't really care about and want to finish asap. Of course, in the end, it's YOUR game and you can play it absolutely any way you want, and no one has the righ to criticize (sp?) you for it Ð. __________________ He who hesitates, is lost.<br />============================<br />Yeah, it\'s all fun and games, until someone looses an eye.

12-05-2001, 11:58 AM	#5
spoon Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: November 27, 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 26	quote: Originally posted by Drakton: Of course, in the end, it's YOUR game and you can play it absolutely any way you want, and no one has the righ to criticize (sp?) you for it Ð. I thought I -did- have the right, free speach and all that. [img]graemlins/evillaughter2.gif[/img] Oh well I always suspected other countries of supressing my rights. [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/uhoh2.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img] ps i have to use this smiley [img]graemlins/jamesbond.gif[/img] woo

12-05-2001, 03:14 PM	#6
Jerry Austin The Magister Join Date: November 29, 2001 Location: ohio Posts: 106	High, Im interested in your editor but didnt see your email address anywhere can you hook me up with it...id like to keep up on the newest version. qwert __________________ Qwert<br />

12-05-2001, 11:53 PM	#8
gd2 Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: November 21, 2001 Location: USA,, Earth, Sol, in Milkyway Galaxy Posts: 30	Hi all, no particular reason for using that bug eyed emoticon btw, 'xept that it cracks me up. Anyway, cheating... [img]graemlins/2cents.gif[/img] Even though Wiz8's an awesome game, the release of which I've waited a long time for, and though I wont be using any trainers or editors, still IMHO one shouldn't be chastized, looked down upon, etc, for cheating. If this were a MMUD maybe that'd make it different, but its single player. Some people find they get the most fun or just the most out of a game by using editors or otherwise cheating, others dont have or aren't willing to spend the time needed to play without cheating. Lets at least acknowledge this much: whatever else games we like so much are, they're true wasters of precious time. So in a way, its not editors that are evil at all. Infact, in this light, an editor or anything that helps pry someone who's wasting the day away from the computer quicker is actually a kind of savior . Hmm... [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img] Of course that only applies to all but yours truly [img]graemlins/funnysad.gif[/img] ... __________________ :monster13: Little else is requisite to carry a state to the highest degree of opulence from the lowest barbarism, but peace, easy taxes, and tolerable administration of justice.

12-05-2001, 05:19 AM	#1
Talryan Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 15	Ok, I've got most of it done now so I'm putting it on my site for download. I'm adding in the ability to add/change inventory items, but it's taking a while since there are a lot of items to type in for the lists. [img]tongue.gif[/img] So far it works on .sav and .chr files (.chr files are the level 1 characters that are listed when you go to start a new game, changing these means you can start out at higher levels w/ better stats and such). Download, enjoy, let me know what you think please. http://perfectweb.org/wizardry.zip Talryan

12-05-2001, 08:08 AM	#3
Talryan Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 15	No need to preach to the choir friend. I didn't write this for myself to use, I rarely find games I enjoy, so I try to enjoy the game as much as possible before "cheating". I just like programming and this was a good little exercise for me since I've never used VC++ before. And since I know a lot of people out there were wanting it, I created one that runs quickly and efficiently. I've updated it to include adjusting exp now as well, the link to the file is the same though. If you have any troubles with it, shoot me an e-mail, I included it in the zip file. Tal

12-05-2001, 07:20 PM	#7
Talryan Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 15	email: netspyder101@yahoo.com Look forward to hearing from you. Jonathan

12-06-2001, 02:24 AM	#9
Knip Dyolf The Magister Join Date: November 29, 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 67 Posts: 126	I agree gd2. Its all a matter of choice. If someone needs an editor or cheat to make the game more enjoyable for them then good luck I say. These are games.....the word alone suggests FUN. The people out there that take the time and effort to make editors, find cheats, write up walkthroughs and so on are godsends for those of us that need help. When I first bought Zelda for the Nintendo system the only way I was able to progress through some parts of the game was to ring a help line and get charged some $1.00 a minute for some dude to hold my hand and sloooowlyyyy take me through to the next section. My phone bill was bigger than my mortage payments. I am, at this stage, determined to play wiz 8 without any editor or cheat. I will be relying on this forum for any help. I have ruined, in my opinion, too many games using a cheat. However, I thank say thank you to those people that take the time and effort to make editors, walkthroughs, etc. Your efforts are appreciated by many a gamer. [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img] __________________ \"Listen, strange women lyin\' in ponds distributin\' swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. \"<br />Monty Python and the Holy Grail

12-06-2001, 03:36 AM	#10
Talryan Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 15	http://perfectweb.org/wizardry.zip Ok, new version of the editor has been released, and the updates are as follows: Ability to add/change any item in any of the 8 inventory slots Ability to add/update the quantity or charges of any item in an inventory slot Ability to change a characters race Ability to change a characters sex Current Exp now saves properly into the file Program will now find any and all characters within the .sav file If you have any questions, comments, complaints, PLEASE e-mail me and let me know. I'm going into Computer Science as a career, so I have to get used to listening to the input from the users of a program! I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut...oh wait, that's not it. I just enjoy coding and playing around with various things, hence making the savegame editor. Tal

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