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Old 11-07-2004, 07:46 PM   #1
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It was the day after the election, and I walk in on one of the student coordinators who is talking about how bad things are going to be now that Bush will be in the White House for 4 more years. Whatever, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

But when I was asked who I voted for, and I told her that I voted for Bush, I was screamed at:

What?! Didn't you see Farenheit 911???

I couldn't stop laughing. As I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but to vote for someone based on a story that windbag Moore made up is just sad.
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Old 11-07-2004, 11:16 PM   #2
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So if Moores movie doesn't do the trick for you.. how about 'The World According to Bush'?
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Old 11-07-2004, 11:58 PM   #3
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Originally posted by krunchyfrogg:
It was the day after the election, and I walk in on one of the student coordinators who is talking about how bad things are going to be now that Bush will be in the White House for 4 more years. Whatever, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

But when I was asked who I voted for, and I told her that I voted for Bush, I was screamed at:

What?! Didn't you see Farenheit 911???

I couldn't stop laughing. As I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but to vote for someone based on a story that windbag Moore made up is just sad.
LOL... Moore's Zombie Cultists! Gotta love em!
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Old 11-08-2004, 01:28 AM   #4
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Originally posted by Djinn Raffo:
So if Moores movie doesn't do the trick for you.. how about 'The World According to Bush'?
I saw a version of it that was entirely dubbed into French... Making it pretty much unwatchable as every American opinion was still vaguely heard in the background, while a monotonous French voice explained what he was saying. While I'm capable of understanding French, it was still rather disconcerting. Can't these guys just use subtitles instead of dubs?

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Old 11-08-2004, 02:26 AM   #5
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People that base their votes on just Farenheit 911 should submit to involuntary sterilisation. "Who are you going to vote for?" "I dunno, let's watch some propaganda movies to help me make up my mind."

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Old 11-08-2004, 02:50 AM   #6
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People that base their votes on just Farenheit 911 should submit to involuntary sterilisation. "Who are you going to vote for?" "I dunno, let's watch some propaganda movies to help me make up my mind."
Was your account hijacked by krunchyfrogg or something? That's a bit too harsh, especially by your standards...
And while I agree that one shouldn't base a decision on how to vote on only one source, this is a problem that certainly doesn't just apply to people swayed by F9/11. How about Fox News as your only source of news on a daily basis? NRO? NewsMax? WorldNetDaily? Documentaries like Stolen Honor, Celsius 41.1, Fahrenhype 9/11? Talkshow Radio? Rush Limbaugh? Ann Coulter? Swiftboat Veterans for Truth? Or even worse, only being swayed in your decision by campaign advertisements?
There's propaganda or partisan tv/radio/books everywhere, and if you're truly an undecided voter with none of the regular prejudices or opinions usually associated to one party, you should base your opinion on more than just one source in an ideal situation - though many people simply don't care enough about politics to be really up-to-date, and as far as I can tell this group actually outnumbers those who really *do* care - I reckon a forced sterilisation on anyone who bases their opinion on one source or a set of very one-sided sources would result in at least 50 million people not being able to reproduce. And that's not even counting the 100 million who don't even bother to vote...

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Old 11-08-2004, 06:36 AM   #7
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Yeah - what Groj said [img]smile.gif[/img] . You have to look at both sides of the argument. To many people dismiss the other side of the argument because they only want to hear the word as spoken by their political affiliation.
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Old 11-08-2004, 07:56 AM   #8
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I've never actually seen Farenheit 9/11, so I'd be curious to know what the supposed misinformation in the film actually is. Surely if Moore had said anything objectively untrue, somebody would have sued him over it.
Certainly Michael Moore has a remarkable talent for pejoritive reporting, but in what I have seen of his films they don't contain any direct misinformation.
Could somebody point out specific examples of false claims made by Moore in F9/11 and the evidence on which they are based?

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Old 11-08-2004, 10:32 AM   #9
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I've never actually seen Farenheit 9/11, so I'd be curious to know what the supposed misinformation in the film actually is. Surely if Moore had said anything objectively untrue, somebody would have sued him over it.
Would you people quit saying this shit???? I can't believe how you blindly march along like a zombie thinking if someone lies they'll get sued over it. Political speech enjoys heightened First Amendment protection -- basically people can lie and make crap up all the time, and they do, without fear of repurcussion. Besides, a lawsuit for money damages comes AFTER the election and is Page 15 news rather than Page 1.
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Old 11-08-2004, 04:57 PM   #10
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I haven't seen the film and I actually want to know what it said which was so innaccurate. I'm not trying to defend it, because I haven't seen it, as I said in my post.

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