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Old 05-03-2003, 11:35 AM   #1
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MOORESTOWN, New Jersey (AP) -- Blair Hornstine's latest report card had four A-plus grades in five courses. She scored a 1570 out of 1600 on the SAT and is deciding whether to attend Harvard, Stanford, Duke, Princeton or Cornell -- all of which have accepted her.

But despite her best-in-her-class grades, her school district wants to name her co-valedictorian with two other students.

Hornstine, the 18-year-old daughter of a state Superior Court judge, has asked a federal judge to intervene, saying that being forced to share with students with lesser grades would detract from what she has accomplished.

She has also filed a notice saying she plans to sue the school district in state court claiming the dispute has humiliated her. She said she would be asking for $200,000 in compensatory damages and $2.5 million in punitive damages.

Her school district looks at the disagreement another way: Because of an immune deficiency, Hornstine is classified as a disabled student and has taken a class load that doesn't include physical education and involves her spending part of her school day studying at home.

The two other Moorestown High School seniors with nearly perfect grades could not match her grade-point average, officials said, because classes like gym receive less weight in calculating the GPA.

"After reviewing these issues, I was concerned about the fundamental fairness of the academic competition engaged in for the valedictorian and salutatorian awards," Superintendent Paul Kadri said in a court filing. "The level of competition ... had been compromised."

U.S. District Judge Freda Wolfson set a hearing for May 8, and the Moorestown Board of Education planned to consider what to do about the situation at a May 12 meeting.

Graduation is June 19.

Hornstine, who said she plans to become a lawyer, is not the first student to sue over the right to be valedictorian of a high school class.

In the last year alone, judges have been asked to consider similar cases in Ohio, Washington and Michigan. In two of the cases, students who wanted to be included as co-valedictorians were allowed by judges to be included. The third case, in Michigan, involves a student who wanted an A changed to an A+ so he would be more likely to be valedictorian.
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Old 05-03-2003, 11:50 AM   #2
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ok now this is getting wayyyyyy out of hand

my husband has a lawsuit pending on him from a former employer claiming he stole $7000 and the arrested him and said they had proof, this has been going on over a year, the last 2 trails proved the da had nothing, they "lost" the video tape they claimed to have had. but they refuse to drop the case against him
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Old 05-03-2003, 02:48 PM   #3
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All I can say is WTF. Has society degraded so badly that people have resorted to petty law suits involving high school kids? My god, what is this teaching the up and coming generation?
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Old 05-03-2003, 03:25 PM   #4
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in 1968 there was a lawsuit just like this at A Los Angeles city High School. a student with a 4.0 grade tried to say that because her classes were comprised of Math and Science and that the other two girls that had 4.0 grades in english and histoy had much easier classes and shouldn't receive the same honor. She lost her case and had to pay the court costs.
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Old 05-03-2003, 06:18 PM   #5
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All I can say is WTF. Has society degraded so badly that people have resorted to petty law suits involving high school kids? My god, what is this teaching the up and coming generation?
I have to ask the same WTF for your question.

The high-school girl is the one that is making the case! She is the up and coming generation. She thinks that she deserves to be the only one who receives recognition, but the school in their defense has asked that the matter of her credits be considered. She is unable to take the low-weight courses like phys. ed., so her GPA is weight on a different scale than those that have to take it. As the report states, the other two people that are to be considered for the award would never be able to match her GPA because she took less classes and that helps her grade, where the otheres had to take P.E., and are graded on a different scale.
My conclusion is that this brat is being selfish and not realizing that her minor disability is no excuse to get a special recognition, and not share it with two other people that worked just as hard as she did to get where they are now.
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Old 05-03-2003, 06:21 PM   #6
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I agree with Animal. If she can't be happy with co-valedictorian, she can roll her ass on over to some other school. Okay, joking.

But, WTF, WTF, W-T-F??

She won't get very far with the case, IMO. The Supreme Court has recently seriously limited the ADA and other legal protections for handicapped folks. It sets a tone among the profession that, except for reasonable access, those cases don't get you very far these days.
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Old 05-03-2003, 06:48 PM   #7
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I agree with Animal. If she can't be happy with co-valedictorian, she can roll her ass on over to some other school. Okay, joking.

But, WTF, WTF, W-T-F??

She won't get very far with the case, IMO. The Supreme Court has recently seriously limited the ADA and other legal protections for handicapped folks. It sets a tone among the profession that, except for reasonable access, those cases don't get you very far these days.
What I want to know is...with most courts wimpping and whining about case over load and all, what are they doing wasting time and resources on this type of crap?
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Old 05-03-2003, 06:53 PM   #8
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All I can say is WTF. Has society degraded so badly that people have resorted to petty law suits involving high school kids? My god, what is this teaching the up and coming generation?
I have to ask the same WTF for your question.

The high-school girl is the one that is making the case! She is the up and coming generation. She thinks that she deserves to be the only one who receives recognition, but the school in their defense has asked that the matter of her credits be considered. She is unable to take the low-weight courses like phys. ed., so her GPA is weight on a different scale than those that have to take it. As the report states, the other two people that are to be considered for the award would never be able to match her GPA because she took less classes and that helps her grade, where the otheres had to take P.E., and are graded on a different scale.
My conclusion is that this brat is being selfish and not realizing that her minor disability is no excuse to get a special recognition, and not share it with two other people that worked just as hard as she did to get where they are now.
[/QUOTE]I should have said (typed?) what are we teaching the up and coming generation? Obviously her idea to file suit was implanted into her head at somepoint, so why are teenagers thinking like this?
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Old 05-03-2003, 07:40 PM   #9
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Then that would be her dad's fault. He is a Superior Court Judge. If anybody led her to think this way, it would be him...but she herself is preparing to be a lawyer, so maybe she thought this one out on her own...for practice or something...
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